Monthly Archives: February 2017

You’re making it look easy!

Woo! I am now 51% fluent in French (by the rather modest standard of fluency used by Duolingo, I should say.) So eventually you do progress if you keep at it by doing just 20 points a day. (OK, I had a couple days with 30 last week, but no more than that.) Took me less than half a year to go from 49 to 51 too. Or somewhere around that.

One new feature that showed up this year was the occasional appearance of Duo the green owl peeking in from the side of the screen to say: “Keep it up!” “You’re making it look easy!” “Six in a row, look at you go!” Thank you, Duo, for not putting pressure on me or jolting me out of my rhythm … ^_^;

Of course, it is actually Duolingo that goes to great lengths to make it look easy. This is particularly true for the app, not so much the web edition. While the webpages have more explanations of grammar and such, the exercises are quite a bit harder. Not only do you have to type without auto-correction, which makes it hard to get all the accents, but you have more typing exercises in general. On the smartphone app, many exercises consist of just clicking on the right words from a crowd of words to string them together into the correct sentence, and sometimes you just match words or phrases in the two languages. So the app is great for those who want it easy and have a fragile ego. The web is better if you like a challenge. For instance I used to do Swedish on the web when I did that, because otherwise it would be too embarrassingly easy.  For French, it is mostly a matter of how much time and effort you want to put into it. (The more effort, the better you learn.) For Hebrew, just finding the characters on the PC keyboard was an adventure, so definitely smartphone / tablet for that one before I gave up.

Making it look easy is probably the only way to keep people like me who don’t have any special motivation to learn a particular language. Now if Japanese appears – which it is supposed to do this summer, but I believe that when I see it – I might actually want to make an effort. I have tried so many times in so many ways to learn some Japanese, but it keeps hovering just out of reach, understanding just scattered words and not being able to read or write them. But Japanese is for the future, if any. If they can make that look easy, I take my hat off. Hey, it is better than tearing my hair off!

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Still at 50

I seriously think I may finish the French course (if I live long enough…) and still have a rating of only 50%. This is how I am doing it currently: I do 20 points a day, starting with a “weight lifting” exercise (repetitions picked by the machine). If I don’t do better than about 80% right on first try, I do another such exercise. But almost always I do better than that, strangely enough, so I do the next 10 points from the next available lesson. Even though I learn a handful of new words or phrases six days a week or so, I am still at 50% as I was last fall when I wrote about this. Now I kind of wish to continue like this and see if it really holds as I learn hundreds of new words. Actually I’ve probably done that – if  each new lesson teaches 5 words (and I think that is a minimum), that would be approximately 30 words a week. And having been 50% for about 5 months now (with the occasional dip down to 49%), that would be in the range 600-700 words at least, while still remaining at 50%. So naturally I am curious as to how long this will keep up. Well, that’s one form of motivation!

(It is not actually a bug though – the more you have learned, the more you have to repeat. So if I had a randomized test of what I have learned so far, I actually might fail at half of it. It is hard to say, since Duolingo makes sure to never make the questions too hard, for fear that people might give up. I know I have gone through much harder stuff than what I get quizzed in.)

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Too hard, too easy, and just right

I mentioned in an earlier entry that I had dropped Turkish (for more or less political reasons) and picked up Hebrew (because it is super difficult and I wanted to see how that felt.) Well, I gave up on Hebrew. I don’t really have the motivation. I would guess most people who study it via Duolingo are motivated by religion, although I suppose hopeful tourists might also exist. Anyway, once I saw for myself that it was as hard as I imagined and then some, I dropped it after a few weeks. Obviously, I would not have done that if it was my holy language. Or so I think. We shall see if Japanese ever comes out. (There is currently an attempt to make it, finally, but it is slow going.)

I also studied Swedish for a few months.  It is a much easier language for an English-speaker to learn, but I am not even an English-speaker primarily. My mother tongue is Norwegian, which is so close to Swedish and Danish that I can read them without remembering the next day which language I read in, even though I remember the content. They are not as close as British, US and Australian English, but probably more like Spanish and Portuguese. (Actually I don’t know those well enough to say for sure, but just looking at them they seem fairly close.)

In the end, I dropped Swedish because I don’t need it. It was super easy, but harder than I expected: I can translate from Swedish easily, but writing in Swedish is much harder. Anyway, I can understand Swedes and they can understand me, so the effort seems a bit wasted. When I ran into a busy patch and had to prune my hobbies, Swedish fell by the wayside. It should be easy enough to pick back up if I ever get that much time on my hands. Probably not unless there is some breakthrough in radical life extension though. But if you want to go to Scandinavia, by all means pick it up. Almost everyone here can speak English, but at least you will know what people say about you behind your back. ^_^

I am still doing my 20 points a day of French though. I don’t really think I’ll ever need it, but it is just hard enough that I can’t read it without learning it, and easy enough that I can breeze through my daily quota without much effort.

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